Miter Saw Kickback
posted on September 26, 2008 by Rockler

kapex miter sawCan a chop saw or sliding miter saw cause kickback? Well, in a manner of speaking. Many of us are familiar with the unnerving experience of having a sliding miter saw blade bind in piece of wood; in the middle of a cut, you feel a sudden, violent jerking backward of the motor and blade unit. Such an event seldom leads to serious injury (provided a few common sense safety rules have been followed) but nevertheless can leave a person with a desire to move on to something safer - like sanding or sweeping the floor.

Most of what you’ll read and hear on the subject of kickback, however, relates to machines that have the power and potential to hurl a good-sized piece of material in the general direction of the woodworker. This is a much more dire form of woodworking mishap. As Woodworkers’ Journal Editor Rob Johnstone explained handily in answer to an ezine reader’s question, the two types of kickback differ greatly in their potential for harm:

"True ‘kickback’ is a situation where a rotating saw blade (or cutter of some sort) grabs or binds to a piece of material and throws or "kicks it back" opposite the direction that it is being pushed (i.e., towards the user). It is prione: marily a problem with a table saw (or in some cases a table-mounted router or shaper). This is very dangerous, as it can pull your fingers through the saw blade or even impale you with the material that is being thrown back at you.

"Where you are moving the saw through the material with a radial arm saw or sliding miter saw as you described, if the material should bind the saw blade -- with or without a stop block -- the saw would be impelled toward the user. This is startling, but in most cases quite manageable. The material will be pushed or thrown away from the user (toward the fence). If the material is tight to the fence when you start your cut, then with a chop saw or the like, it is really not a dangerous thing. You must keep your off hand out of the path of the saw in any case, as is only common sense."

Even if you do follow basic miter saw safety rules – keeping your free hand well out of the path of the blade; wearing safety equipment; making sure any angle settings are securely locked in; keeping the material up tight against the fence and bed of the tool, etc.* - you may encounter an occasional surprise. The most common is the one described above, where the blade gets stuck in the material and, in the case of a sliding saw, is propelled toward the user.

freud lu91r bladeWhat causes this? This type of kickback happens when the kerf closes in on the blade and “grabs” it. It happens frequently when sawing long, wide boards near the middle. When lumber isn’t perfectly straight and flat (and it never truly is) it can’t be held in firm contact with the fence and bed of the saw at every point. As the cut proceeds and the wood moves into closer contact with the fence and/or bed, the kerf changes shape and can impinge on the path of the blade. When cutting long, wide stock on a sliding miter saw, some woodworkers like to start by making a partial chop cut near the fence side of the blade. Doing so helps soften the effects of any binding that takes place.  

Other factors contribute to blade binding, including one or two that are entirely preventable. Wet wood or wood with a high pitch content is more “sticky” and can be more grab-prone. A dull or inappropriate blade will also have more of a tendency to bind. On a sliding miter saw, a dull blade with an aggressive hook angle and too few teeth is a recipe for jagged cuts, short bits of cutoff ricocheting hither and yon, and a generally unpleasant sawing experience at the very least. A quality blade designed for use on a slider (such as Freud’s LU91R Sliding Compound Miter Saw Blade) will not only help cut down on binding, but will also make a world of difference in quality of cut the saw delivers.

You should also check to make sure the saw is functioning properly. The blade needs follow a perfectly straight path throughout the cut to avoid rubbing up against the kerf. Make sure that bevel and miter settings are holding fast, that the blade is on tight, and that there’s no appreciable slop in any of the working parts.

It’s a good idea to make sure that the two sides of the fence are on the same plane. If they are not, and the fence is not adjustable, the problem can be corrected by adding a shop-made sub-fence to ether side and shimming until the two are exactly coplanar. If all is working correctly and you are using a sharp, appropriate blade, the vast majority of your cuts should be near glass smooth and trouble free.

festool sliding miter sawAnother unpleasant miter saw event happens when the blade catches the edge of a piece of cutoff and fires it across the shop. Occurring most often with very small pieces of stock, this type of “kickback” is rarely puts the operator in great physical danger (as long as appropriate safety equipment is in use). But it is startling, and can be very annoying when the sawn-off projectile - which can be extremely difficult to find - is the part you need.

A good blade and a correctly functioning saw are the best defense against flying cutoff. It’s also advisable to use a moderate slicing stroke instead of slamming though the wood as fast as you can (chop saw is a name, after all, not an instruction). Another trick is to let the blade come to a complete stop before lifting it up past the stock. If everything else is in order, doing so should leave even tiny cut off ends lying right next to the blade. 

NOTE: * Please read your saw’s owner’s manual for a more complete list of safety rules.

posted on September 26, 2008 by Rockler
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3 thoughts on “Miter Saw Kickback”

  • Jake

    That's some serious stuff! Unfortunately, lots of woodworkers just ignore the safety measures. They think that "it ain't gonna happen to me", but unfortunately sometimes it does 8(

  • Mary

    I am very new to all of this, I'm cutting a 2 x 4 into 3 1/2 inch blocks for (believe it or not) Parrot toys.

    I started cutting the 2 x 4 by cutting it in half and then cutting each half. During this the "kick back" happened twice. I tried to cut a block of wood into two triangular pieces---the wood got stuck onto the blade. (I won't try that again!)......it also happened just cutting a straight cut. As I said, this is all new to me.....

  • Rockler Blog Team
    Rockler Blog Team March 21, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Sounds like something's amiss there. We'd suggest asking a more experienced saw user to give you a few pointers before continuing. Also, it sounds like you may be trying to cut very short pieces of wood, which doesn't work very well and could be dangerous because it brings your hand into close proximity with the blade. There may be other factors, too - a bad blade, warped wood, etc. Once you are confident that everything else is set up right, try starting with longer pieces of wood and cut the small pieces off of one end. Stop and grab a new piece when you get down to the last foot or so. 2 x 4s are inexpensive; fingers are irreplaceable. Thanks for the comment!

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