Fantastic construction as is expected of Hafele. Be careful, though, if you are thinking you will put the 24" unit in a 24" cabinet. Maybe it is just me, but I assumed wrongly that the 24" unit was deigned to fit in a 24" cabinet would contract like Hafele's drawer ironing board. It does not. However, you can disassemble the cross-rods from the extension slides, cut the rods, and re-assemble - in my case, to make a 21" wide unit that would slide out between the rails of the face frame on my 24" cabinet. Note that you lose 3" of width which makes it so the hanging bags are a little "bunched," but it still works much better than going with the 18" and furing it out.

I love this product, it is very customizable and user friendly. I'm happy to see Rockler carrying this item. I have installed several of these for customers. The Murphy door hardware is extremely well built and heavy duty. I love it!

I bought this kit last summer, and the kit works EXACTLY as advertised. Just a word of warning - read the directions through fully BEFORE starting this project and make sure you're following every step in order. If you do you will have a murphy bed and not a "Murphy's law" project you can be proud of.

The Lid-Stay Torsion Hinges sound like a great idea and the sales clerk at Rockler assured me they were the ultimate solution for my Grandson's toy chest. But I can tell you nothing in this life is ever as simple as all that. The big problem is that the very thickness of the hinge body necessitates the use of a chisel to bring the lid down to a flush position. Furthermore the 2 30 pound hinges I bought would NOT hold the lid from dropping from a 30 degree position even though the lid was way less than 30# Needless to say it took me way longer than a few seconds or even a few minutes to install!

Editor's note: Mortising of these hinges in not required. Mortising of hinges to bring bottom of lid tight to top of box has the potential for unnecessary binding.