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Soft Down Lid Support

Item #: 69732
Protect those little fingers from unpleasant surprises with these gently closing lid supports. Ideal for toy boxes, piano benches and other lidded furniture.
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Overview

Lids lower gently--never crushing fingers. Support opens lids to a maximum angle of 105° and is 8-7/8" long overall. They have nickel plated steel arms with cream colored plastic housing. Compact design makes these supports ideal for installing in tight places.

Use one support per 43 inch/lbs. Determine inch/lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2.

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Technical Details

  • Brand: Sugatsune
  • Manufacturer Part Number: SDS-210-UMBER
  • Weight (lbs): 0.3500
  • Open Degree: 105
  • Finish: Brass

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Exactly the right thing for the toy chest I am giving to my Grandson.
Erik B on Sep 23, 2016
grand daughter has small fingers that are easily smashed by toy box lids
tony r on Sep 2, 2016
Exactly the right thing for the toy chest I am giving to my Grandson.
Erik B on Sep 23, 2016
I'm installing this for my daughters toy box.
James F on Sep 16, 2016
grand daughter has small fingers that are easily smashed by toy box lids
tony r on Sep 2, 2016
Protect grandson's fingers on a German American blanket chest I made for his toy box.
Steve D on Aug 22, 2016
used them before and they are great
Dan S on Aug 21, 2016
looks like it is made good
Clifford H on Aug 21, 2016
Because of the reviews
Jenny H on Aug 17, 2016
This appears to be a good choice for the soft closing of my great granddaughters toy box i have just completed. Haven't used this item before, so i will know more upon it's arrival and installation.
Larry M on Aug 10, 2016
I built a drop zone with a bench with a lid. Needed a soft down to keep little fingers from being pinched.
David B on Aug 7, 2016
This will be installed on a dovetailed toy box for my grandson. The soft close will protect his fingers during closing.
Stephen O on Jul 21, 2016
It helps protect people, particularly children, from getting their fingers smashed from a falling lid.
Barry M on Jul 18, 2016
Protect grandsons fingers from new toy box that I am building
Marianne R on Jul 16, 2016
Friend with similar project recommended it.
Becky B on Jul 4, 2016
I am fixing an old toy trunk and needed a safe hinge for children . I'm hoping this will work .
Diane N on Jun 28, 2016
I needed it for a toy box for my grandson
Eric H on Jun 20, 2016
The only place that I found had good specialty hardware
Marios N on Jun 12, 2016
Repair broken soft down lid support
Dennis B on May 3, 2016
QUALITY-SUPPORT
Roseann f on May 3, 2016
I used them on my grandson's toy box and now I'm building a toy box for my granddaughter.
Cecil A. S on Apr 20, 2016
I am building a cedar toy chest
Curtis P on Apr 6, 2016
appears to be quality and the description seemed accurate for my needs.
Walt O on Apr 5, 2016
Looks like it would work best
Vernon H on Mar 31, 2016
I chose this so the Steamer Trunk I build will have a way to close more gently.
Kevin G on Mar 29, 2016
Support for cedar chest
Alexander B on Mar 26, 2016
Building a blanket chest and I would like support to hold the lid up when opened and ease when closing.
Terry S on Mar 24, 2016
The one I have broke (16 years old) It worked great :)
Edward V on Mar 22, 2016
I tried safety hinges from Menards but they did not work at all. After reading the specifications and reviews about these hinges, I decided it would be a good choice.
Jan F on Mar 21, 2016
This will be used to support the roof for a barn I'm building for my grandson. Want an easy lowering roof so not to pinch his fingers.
Greg N on Mar 21, 2016
Great for toy boxes with heavy wooden lids. Ensures the lid does not slam down of the fingers of little kids.
Roland Q on Mar 19, 2016
I wanted to finish a toy box for my grandson that MY father had made in his shop class in high school!!!
Beth R on Mar 18, 2016
I have made a chest with a very heavy lid and so I need the soft close feature
Steve H on Mar 17, 2016
Granddaughters toy box
Alan F on Mar 16, 2016
bought one before worked great on my grandsons toy box. building a toy box now for my second grandson.
Emily B on Mar 13, 2016
To avoid pinched fingers on the toy box that I am building, these seemed the perfect solution.
Don O on Mar 6, 2016
Appears it will fit exactly what I need it to do and with 2 of them will cover the amount of lid weight I estimate I will have.
Ryan P on Feb 29, 2016
new baby
tom p on Feb 21, 2016
Used this on 5 other toy boxes and works great
Douglas K on Feb 2, 2016
Making a toy box for my grandson
John in Wyoming on Jan 26, 2016
replace broken support
Lorrie B on Jan 26, 2016
added to a sweater chest/toy box.
MIKE A on Jan 20, 2016
use them on chests works great
harley e on Jan 13, 2016
So little finger will not get injured.
George D on Jan 12, 2016
It looked to be adequate
Mary Ann M on Jan 6, 2016
have chest and need a subport
Donald S on Jan 6, 2016
Keep those little fingers safe for the entry way bench storage.
Banks D on Jan 1, 2016
Because I don't want my great grandchildren getting their fingers hurt with a run-a-way toy box lid.
Donald G. C on Dec 28, 2015
Works great for toy boxes, it slows down the lid when closing.
Tony D on Dec 27, 2015
To keep the lid on my cherry blanket chest from slamming down while using both arms to load or unload blankets.
Hobart E on Dec 26, 2015
I was very pleased with how well they worked. The instructions were not easy to follow though. They were all in metric and I had to convert the measurements.
John C on Dec 23, 2015
These are great for toy box lids! I've made several for customers and they love them as well!
James R on Dec 13, 2015
I'm installing this for my daughters toy box.
James F on Sep 16, 2016
Protect grandson's fingers on a German American blanket chest I made for his toy box.
Steve D on Aug 22, 2016
how many needed for lid 10 pounds 19 inches wide ?
ronnie j on Apr 24, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You would need 2 of these supports.
If I have a box that will require 2 of these are they ambidextrous? I dont see a left and right?
Will G on Jun 22, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Yes, completely ambidextrous.
I would like to use this to create a store-away ironing board, it would need to be in the "open" position for most of the time, but when it is deployed for ironing it will have a support leg or two to take the weight of the ironing board (dimensions of the board approx 2.5 feet wide by 5 feet long, weight approx 25-30 pounds). Would this be ideal, or should I go with this and a combination of Lid-Stay Torsion Hinge Lid Support hinges?
Brian M on Jan 11, 2016
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BEST ANSWER: The soft-down lid support is intended to allow a lid to close softly, not necessarily to hold something in the vertical position - I used one on the top of an antique wash stand. It will NOT hold the top in the vertical position unless it is raised beyond the vertical. I don't think this would work for an ironing board, because of the length and the leverage of that length.

I have no experience with the Lid Stay hinges, but the torsion calculator suggests you would need 750 inch-pounds of holding power; I don't see anything rated higher than 60.. Maybe someone in the store has some experiecne with this. You could also consider these and use some sort of catch to hold the board against the wall.
I have built a toy Box with a lid that is 26lbs. and 42" by 22" . I want the lid to close slowly. What size do I need and will it require 2?
OldWrangler on Oct 3, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I would recommend at least two lid support as you have 286 inch pounds to hold.
Rocklers item #26237 and #26203 are a right hand and left hand support. and have a max rating of 125 in. pounds. If more is need then #26153 would be sufficient to carry the extra weight. It is a 35-40 inch pound back mount support
I am going to use this for a toy box. What hinge style do you recommend? For a fairly heavy lid?
LIren S on Sep 14, 2015
BEST ANSWER: It might work if you use 2 of those on each side. Those are just a support with adjustable tensioner so you still need to install piano or other type of hinges.
I see there is a knuckle in this support. Do you have to pull the hinge to unlock it, or can you simply pull down on the lid?
Michael B on Sep 29, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You pull down the lid. The product works great. Very impressed with the product
would this work on3/4" mdf 29"x42"?
John P on Sep 12, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I use done an a 20 x 36" oak lid and it works fine, but it does not hold the lid open unless it is beyond 90 degrees. It does close softly.

Since MDF is much heavier than oak, and you are working with twice as many square inches, you will need something stronger.
does this lid support open up a full 90 degs, if not what is the maxim opening degs.?
Jerry S on Apr 22, 2016
BEST ANSWER: This lid support opens past 90 degrees, depending on mount location. It is supposed to go to 105 degrees. Item works great.
Do these Soft lid supports come in Right and Left or do they work either way?
Terry G on Jan 7, 2016
BEST ANSWER: They work either way. There is a through hole that is geared on the inside and it goes on either side.
are they universal for Left or right ?
ric p on Jul 28, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I didn't use this hinge. Comes with no instructions for installing. Very expensive for what you get. My suggestion is to go to Home Depot and buy a soft close hinge for about $5.00. Researched this on You-Tube and this one works just as good as the one Rocker sells.
What is the minimum depth from bottom of box that they can be used? My activity desk is only 2 1/4 in deep. Will this work?
Bob Y on Mar 23, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Assuming the device is mounted as near flush as possible with the top of the desk side. I measured from the projecting peg shown in the photo, to the bottom of the arc of the plastic body, as it rotates, and mine appears to need about 2 3/4" minimum clearance.
I'm building a toy barn where you can open a portion of the roof measuring 7" x 24", will this lid support work since overall length is 8-7/8"?
Greg N on Jan 16, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes, it should work just fine. The lid support is hinged, so it folds down into about a 5" length. I used it on a tack trunk and it works great. Very smooth and sturdy.
Can I use this for my trapped door in my floor? Door weighs about 90lbs
A shopper on Jun 18, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I don't think these will work, even with one on each side. The formula is: "Use one support per 43" /lbs. Figure" /lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2. "

Note that the spec is "inch /pounds" (not exactly clear).

I used one for a wash stand top that weighs about 12 pounds and it is marginal.
I am looking for a solid lid stay for a non-flat lid (boxed lid). All stays seem to be geared toward a flat lid. Thank- you for your help. The lid is very heavy 53"x 20" solid 3/4" cherry?. Any help finding the proper stay is appreciated.
Matt B on May 31, 2015
BEST ANSWER: This will work. I put them on a custom toy box that was built for my kids which has all plywood top and is pretty heavy. They have a very soft close. You should be fine using 4 of these hinges.
Can these be used on an outside storage box?
Michael H on Sep 16, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Michael, I'm really not sure if you can use this hinge outside in the weather. Not sure of the rust factor. Installation instructions are not very good at all.
Is there a left and right hinge?
Jim K on Aug 10, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Correct, came as a pair
Will these open to different points or is only open all the way or complete closed? For instance, will these allow the lid to stop and stay half way open?
Alyson O on Oct 18, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Open or close. At the half-way point it would just let the lid down slowly the rest of the way.
can this be used with European hinges?
A shopper on May 26, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Would work great with Euro hinges. The hinges should be the free swing variety though, because the spring close type would interfere with the soft closing action of the lid support.
The SDS 210/U - Soft Down Lid Support hinges we installed 4 years ago on a cedar chest have begun closing too fast. Is there a way to adjust the speed of closure?
Judy93311 on Aug 18, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I haven't had this problem so my answer would be to call the mfg. I don't think ther is an adjustment.
I have constructed a roof hatch, about 30" x 30" weighing about 30 #'s. I am not sure how to ck. it. I see an answer below calling for (4) units on (1) hatch, I am unsure how to do that [One in front of the other?]. Can the formula be spelled out step by step pls??
Ed S on Aug 2, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I only ordered one hinge kit and it was for a fairly substantial lid. I cannot see how that design of soft close hinge would be able to be double mounted either. Jeff D.
Will this item support and hold lid open??
Dana B on Apr 12, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes it will.
I have a lid that calculates 163 inch pounds. Can I use more than one per side, or would two be adequate? Is there another product I should look at?
Al T on Mar 26, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I didn't figure the inches lbs on my chest lid i just ordered two because I figured that it would be close to limit for one. The lid closes like a dream. You can only use one per side, I think one on each side would do the trick.
can someone translate the directions to simple english please? In looking at the template, doesn't make sense.
Arkynut on Mar 11, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Install the head tan head first the distance down as recommended. Pull the top attachment up until you get to a total vertical position on the lid and mount
Does it hold the lid open?
Randy S on Jan 25, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Randy
The lid is held open but it is really important to buy the right closer and in some cases you need 2 if you use only one it may not hold it open.Follow the directions and install as shown. They also close well if installed right.
my box has a 1/4 lip around inside. need to know if ther would be a clearance issue?
Gary W on Dec 23, 2015
BEST ANSWER: FRom my experience lid ir door will go flush .the purpose of it is to help it stay open and close soft is not a hinge and the instructions are in mm.Try to screw it on a board and figure out the position.
will this work on 1" wood or only 3/4?
Steven M on Aug 10, 2015
BEST ANSWER: It should work fine unless its a real heavy wood like oak, then you might need to use two of them.
Will one support work on a toy box lid at 3lbs., 28" x 14-3/4" pine? is the lid too lite for this support to close correctly? Any suggestions for this antique ?
Tom S on Jun 29, 2015
BEST ANSWER: That's about the size of the lid I just used one on. Worked great.
I have a kid that is 105. Which ones should I us?
Jakenitz on Mar 6, 2016

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Based on the specifications for this...
Based on the specifications for this product, I bought two 2 of them for the toy box that I built for my great-grandson. I weighed the lid to make sure that I was getting the correct unit, but I only needed to install one support. It works well. As others have stated, the instructions that come with the support leave a bit to be desired...they are in metric and very small printing. I just converted all the dimensions to english. I never bothered to look on Rockler's site for their instructions so I don't know how well they are, but a dimension to the center of the mounting bracket would have been handy, along with the dimensions to the holes. Since I have a CAD program, I simply made my own template.
April 8, 2011
I built this cedar chest for...
I built this cedar chest for my son's wedding. I tried several other types of lid supports and none of them worked as well as this one. The only regret I have is I should have order a little stronger model. I had a little problem with the installation. I had to download the instructions from the web page which were much better then the instructions that came with the product. Will use this product on all my future projects. Very happy!!
March 27, 2011
soft down lid support
I have used many different types of supports for the toy boxes I make. and nothing will come close to the soft lid support that Rockler offers. I have been using them for about 3 years now and I will be using them for many more years to come thank you Rockler
May 11, 2015
Purchased
 1 year ago
Woodworking Experience:
Advanced
Works exactly as advertised - antique...
Works exactly as advertised - antique storage chest now closes very slowly and safely unless I use pressure to close it more quickly. We keep beach stuff and boots here so it must be safe for young kids, and now it is.
March 10, 2011
hope chest
I made four memory (hope) chests for grandchildren. The lid supports are great.
October 20, 2015
Purchased
 1 year ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Good to see you have blown...
Good to see you have blown up the instructions, even with good eye sight you need a magnifying glass. I made templates for locating both parts. I made a series of wall benches for the Newman Center in Oswego, NY and used around 20 pair. The templates made short work of it.
July 19, 2009
I have built 10 of these...
I have built 10 of these toy boxes and used these closers on every one. The ONLY one I will use! No hurt fingers!!!
August 29, 2009
I used the soft down lid...
I used the soft down lid support to replace an old support on one of my daughters toy boxes and it works great. You can easily open the lid and also avoid any "pinched" fingers. I highly recommend it.
October 8, 2009
Worked just the I wanted it.
Worked just the I wanted it.
April 21, 2011
This item is a MUST for...
This item is a MUST for any project with a closing lid. I first used this item about 12 years ago on an oak kitchen trash can so it gets PLENTY of use. The only complaint I have about the unit is the center screw that holds the closer to the side wall will work its way loose. If your project gets the workout like mine does several open/close cycles a day you will want to check the screw periodically. Other than that this is an excellent product.
December 26, 2010

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