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Soft Down Lid Support

Protect those little fingers from unpleasant surprises with these gently closing lid supports. Ideal for toy boxes, piano benches and other lidded furniture.
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Lids lower gently--never crushing fingers. Support opens lids to a maximum angle of 105° and is 8-7/8" long overall. They have nickel plated steel arms with cream colored plastic housing. Compact design makes these supports ideal for installing in tight places. Use one support per 43 inch/lbs. Determine inch/lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2.

(1) Soft Down Lid Support
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Brand Sugatsune
Manufacturer Part Number SDS-210-UMBER
Weight 0.3500
Open Degree 105
Finish Brass
4.4 / 5.0
184 Reviews
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Great! Just wish it was In inches not mm... and larger instructions... but loved the slow close and looks really nice as well
November 19, 2019
4 weeks ago
Woodworking Experience:
soft down support
I added these supports to a pair of lids on a window seat storage area. We were concerned about the lids falling on fingers, especially small ones. The supports were easy to install and work well.
The instructions indicate that the screw holes for the bracket that holds the bottom end on the support need to be rotated. I did not find this to be necessary in my case. YMMV.
November 8, 2019
1 month ago
Would recommend!
I am very pleased with these lid supports, and what I like most is how the lid stays up by pushing center of hinge opposite way, also closes nice and slow!!!
November 7, 2019
1 month ago
Woodworking Experience:
Soft down support
It works great. It closes very slowly and only needed one for a 19" x 32" lid made of pine. It would easily handle more weight. Easy to install if you understand the metric system.
October 28, 2019
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Saves on fingers and no noise
October 28, 2019
4 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Just as described . Worked great..
October 16, 2019
2 months ago
soft down lid support
Great part! worked well on an old toy chest.
Only challenge was the math.....Install instructions are metric, I live in the 'inches' world. :)
October 11, 2019
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Great product
This will allow me to have a lid closure to protect my granddaughters little fingers.... works perfectly
October 11, 2019
2 months ago
Was exactly what I was looking for!
The directions aren’t very helpful. If you don’t get it exactly right, it won’t close all the way. The product it’s self, is high quality and I’m sure others have had an easier time with it than I did. It was the first time I had ever tried to put a soft close hinge on.
September 16, 2019
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Works as expected, easy to install. Only needed one in my heavy duty toy box
August 16, 2019
3 months ago
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For an old chest that we want to have our grandchildren use as a toy chest
William P on Nov 18, 2019
It's for a toy box. We don't want to smash any little fingers.
Sue R on Nov 12, 2019
For an old chest that we want to have our grandchildren use as a toy chest
William P on Nov 18, 2019
My grandpa made toyboxes for all his grandchildren. I have young children now, so we're updating the lid support to a soft close mechanism.
Emily Sentman M on Nov 12, 2019
It's for a toy box. We don't want to smash any little fingers.
Sue R on Nov 12, 2019
I'm giving my 67 year old toy chest to my great-grandchildren, and I'm bringing it up to modern safety standards.
J B on Nov 12, 2019
child toy box.
David D on Nov 10, 2019
Used them before. They work well!
john w on Nov 8, 2019
seemed like the best items for safety for my grandkids
David A on Nov 5, 2019
Overall customer feedback
Susan M on Nov 5, 2019
Great for toy box lids for the grand kids!
Mark T on Nov 5, 2019
I'm building a tack box for horse equipment. The lid is fairly heavy and the owner is a small female. These should do the trick.
Sharpwood on Nov 4, 2019
Best option found for toy box lid support to prevent little fingers from getting pinched
Mark G on Nov 2, 2019
As a safety mechanism to protect my granddaughter from potential harm.
M R on Oct 30, 2019
This is the 4th. Grandchild’s toy box I made and this soft down lid support has worked flawlessly for not smashing fingers !
Marty on Oct 17, 2019
Great quality, hope it protects little fingers.
Jaden D on Oct 7, 2019
easy install and good performance
Daniel M on Sep 26, 2019
I read the reviews.
John N on Sep 20, 2019
safety for toy chest
Kathy Cosh C on Aug 30, 2019
Toy chest
James S on Aug 30, 2019
Replace another support that did not work smoothly.
Bob K on Aug 26, 2019
It is what I need for custom bench for my mud room to keep fingers safe
Steve S on Aug 11, 2019
Just the product I was looking for to provide a safe lid for my Grandchildren's toy box.
Anthony O on Aug 10, 2019
for a built in cabinet bench- so the lid will close softly
Guest S on Aug 10, 2019
Need a hinge to close a cedar chest lid that's heavy.
KENT P on Aug 7, 2019
new project
John T on Aug 4, 2019
Previously used item. Works well
DONALD S on Jul 30, 2019
Building toy chest for grandchild
Mark F on Jul 29, 2019
Rebuilding an antique toy chest
Clay C on Jul 25, 2019
For baby toy box to protect the child from closing on fingers.
Frances L on Jul 24, 2019
Storage Builtin
Allison G on Jul 22, 2019
For .lift assist and closing soft down
David R on Jul 18, 2019
kids play box need soft close
William C on Jul 17, 2019
Needed these items to complete a build on a giant shoe box.
Mikel L on Jul 15, 2019
Needed it to place on a toy chest project.
DENNIS K on Jul 11, 2019
Picture shows exactly what I was looking for
Matt S on Jul 9, 2019
Making a window box for my granddaughter and need to avoid pinched fingers.
Robert C on Jun 23, 2019
recommended by friend for blanket box
Virginia . on Jun 20, 2019
Making a toy box for my grandson and the soft down lid support just makes sense.<br />The quality is always good. Rockler is a trusted name in my circle of fellow woodworkers.
Keith C on Jun 12, 2019
Making a toy box for my Grandson and Rockler was recommended by a friend.
bruce m on Jun 10, 2019
Making a toy box for a friend and knew Rockler always has what I need.
Kenneth P on Jun 10, 2019
Making a Treasure chest for a four year old
Roger W on Jun 8, 2019
Needed for a project.
Building a cedar chest
Lew L on Jun 3, 2019
Looked like best product for my needs.
Carolin H on May 30, 2019
made great grandson a toy box wanted a closer that wouldn't mash his fingers. He's one.
Barbara N on May 19, 2019
I have been making toy boxes for family and friends for a couple years now, and this soft close is the best thing on the market. It works fantastic. I will be making more toy boxes over the years i am sure, and i will be ordering many more of these.<br /><br />Keith
Keebs on May 13, 2019
Toy box for the Grandkids.
Michael G on May 12, 2019
I was looking for a hinge that opened more than 90 degrees and also had a soft close.
Craig B on May 6, 2019
Was looking for safety hinge supports for a refinished toy box, and it came recommended by someone I trust.
Norberto V on May 6, 2019
They work great!
Robert F on May 5, 2019
toy box support
Middleton L on Apr 28, 2019
My grandpa made toyboxes for all his grandchildren. I have young children now, so we're updating the lid support to a soft close mechanism.
Emily Sentman M on Nov 12, 2019
I'm giving my 67 year old toy chest to my great-grandchildren, and I'm bringing it up to modern safety standards.
J B on Nov 12, 2019
how many needed for lid 10 pounds 19 inches wide ?
ronnie j on Apr 24, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You would need 2 of these supports.
I have built a toy Box with a lid that is 26lbs. and 42" by 22" . I want the lid to close slowly. What size do I need and will it require 2?
OldWrangler on Oct 3, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I would recommend at least two lid support as you have 286 inch pounds to hold.
Rocklers item #26237 and #26203 are a right hand and left hand support. and have a max rating of 125 in. pounds. If more is need then #26153 would be sufficient to carry the extra weight. It is a 35-40 inch pound back mount support
If I have a box that will require 2 of these are they ambidextrous? I dont see a left and right?
Will G on Jun 22, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Yes, completely ambidextrous.
I see there is a knuckle in this support. Do you have to pull the hinge to unlock it, or can you simply pull down on the lid?
Michael B on Sep 29, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You pull down the lid. The product works great. Very impressed with the product
The measurement from front to back of the top is in inches or ft?
Patrick C on Nov 4, 2016
BEST ANSWER: The dimension (front to back, is in inches, and the weight in pounds). This produces the force measurement in inch / pounds. Trust the in/lb ratings advertised - they work
does this lid support open up a full 90 degs, if not what is the maxim opening degs.?
Jerry S on Apr 22, 2016
BEST ANSWER: As I remember it does, or very close to 90 degrees. I installed a set for someone else.
The apparatus resists strongly when lifting the lid. It will even lift the front off of the floor. It offers no resistance at all when closing. It just slams shut. My toy box is very small with a small lid. My installation looks just like the pictures, closes and opens all the way up and down. What am I missing?
Jim T on May 13, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Sorry, I can't help you with this. I think I remember that the distance from the back of the box and the rod placement on the lid are critical measurements.
Do these Soft lid supports come in Right and Left or do they work either way?
Terry G on Jan 7, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes. Make sure you use lid weight calculation to determine if two are required.
I am going to use this for a toy box. What hinge style do you recommend? For a fairly heavy lid?
LIren S on Sep 14, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Please use the lid weight formula in the Rockler Catalog to determine if you need on or two soft down lids. I was border line on whether to use one or two and decide to use two. It turned out it was the right choice. If children are going to be opening and closing the lid I would definitely use two. The soft down lid is really a good quality lid mechanism and not that difficult to install.
would this work on3/4" mdf 29"x42"?
John P on Sep 12, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I use done an a 20 x 36" oak lid and it works fine, but it does not hold the lid open unless it is beyond 90 degrees. It does close softly.

Since MDF is much heavier than oak, and you are working with twice as many square inches, you will need something stronger.
does it come left or right? not seeing the answer I need.. It says comes quantity (1).. i only need one but need it on the left??
Kelly G on Oct 26, 2019
BEST ANSWER: If I am standing in front of the box, I install it on the right side. I think you can mount it on either side. You only need one unless the box is over 4' long. I hope this helps.
I have a medium size display box (DIY project) that I created with a flat lid. Will this lid support keep the lid up? The lid is less than 5 lbs, but I don't want to constantly hold it while putting items in it.
Casandra on Apr 25, 2019
BEST ANSWER: They work very well. I would advise experimenting a little with placement as the instructions are not the best and I wound up making my own templates. But, get them in the right place and I love them.
What size and how many soft close supports for 6 ft long lid on toy box?
Donna N on Nov 16, 2018
BEST ANSWER: I have used the “soft down lid support” on two different projects and am very pleased.
Each project, the lid is approximately 36in long x 22in deep using 2 stays, one was not enough. I would use the inch pounds formula for larger lid.
Does the lid lock up and soft going down. As i am trying to use it on a mirror covering a niche, and i want it to hold the mirror open at a 90° angle ?
Roger B on Oct 31, 2019
BEST ANSWER: These soft down lid supports I've used to support the top of a walnut cedar chest. They have worked great and support this heavy top on the chest. Pleased with this item and easy to install
I'm building a storage twin bed where the lid opens. 1/2" plywood approximately 39" x "78. Would this work?
Jamie C on Aug 8, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Hi Jamie. I would hesitate using this Soft Down Lid Support for the application to your twin bed. Plywood of 1/2 inch may flex/bend. Consider the loading of bedding in your choice of a stronger Lid Support and the use of 3/4 inch plywood with cross supports. I would look to one of the gas spring choices P/N 34373 or 32924. Ask Rockler to explain the load capacities as this is not indicated is the descriptions. Gordon O
Need something for my storage box under my bed in a camper. So I don't need 105° closer to 65° and the more you open the lid the more bedding your pushing so it's increasing the lb as you increase the angle. And I need it to hold solid at that 65° angle. Will these work for me?
Shane R on Jun 7, 2019
BEST ANSWER: No. This needs to open greater than 90 degrees from horizontal or it will close, albeit slowly. If this will have the weight of bedding on it, I think it will make it that more likely to close, although it will do so slowly. It’s meant to prevent accidental crash downs but it is not meant to hold a lid open if it’s working against gravity/ weight of bedding
If I only open it half way, does it lock into place or does it soft close ?
Jon B on Feb 28, 2019
BEST ANSWER: It will close slowly. Just remember to get one strong enough for the size lid. I had to get stronger ones twice before I had the correct ones for the lid ( on a hope chest) that I was using them for.
The lid is 20 lbs and 6 ft. Long. How many soft closures would I need?
Donna N on Nov 16, 2018
BEST ANSWER: The lids we have used this Soft Down Lid Support for weigh about 20 pounds. They are made of oak & measure 30” long by 18” wide. One Support is plenty for us, so one support should be plenty for your lid also.
I have a large chest the lid will be 1400mm x 800mm 30mm thick about 15kg (30lb) will this unit do the job I will be using 2 ?
S H on Mar 12, 2017
BEST ANSWER: 15kg and 800mm width implies 15 x 2.2 x 800 / 25.4 / 2 lb.ins = 520 Each support can carry 125 lb.ins.
This lid is too heavy for even 2 supports. You need to look for a stronger product
What is the minimum depth from bottom of box that they can be used? My activity desk is only 2 1/4 in deep. Will this work?
Bob Y on Mar 23, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Assuming the device is mounted as near flush as possible with the top of the desk side. I measured from the projecting peg shown in the photo, to the bottom of the arc of the plastic body, as it rotates, and mine appears to need about 2 3/4" minimum clearance.
I'm building a toy barn where you can open a portion of the roof measuring 7" x 24", will this lid support work since overall length is 8-7/8"?
Greg N on Jan 16, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes, it should work just fine. The lid support is hinged, so it folds down into about a 5" length. I used it on a tack trunk and it works great. Very smooth and sturdy.
Can I use this for my trapped door in my floor? Door weighs about 90lbs
A shopper on Jun 18, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I don't think these will work, even with one on each side. The formula is: "Use one support per 43" /lbs. Figure" /lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2. "

Note that the spec is "inch /pounds" (not exactly clear).

I used one for a wash stand top that weighs about 12 pounds and it is marginal.
Don't understand support capability formula. How many pounds will this bracket support? In my case the lid weight is 20 pounds and front to back is 24 inches.. Will this bracket provide adequate support?
Larry G on Oct 11, 2019
BEST ANSWER: We put one bracket on each side because it was a really heavy steamer trunk. It was a curved top and it was for our 4 year old granddaughter. No pinched fingers here!
I've got a pine lid for a toy box that is between 6-7 lbs and 16 in deep.. it comes out to about 50-55 torsion measurement. I can't figure out if one rated at 43 will be enough or if I need 2.?For a 1 year old
Jeremiah J on Jul 24, 2019
BEST ANSWER: I installed one and liked it very much. I subject that you install one and see if you find it safe enough.
Do these lock in position when they are fully extended??
Samuel J on Jul 13, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes if ion to a little over 90 degrees
I have a pecan wood lid that is 3/4" thick , 24" L x 18" w. I don't know how much it weighs but it's heavy , any ideas ?
Roger P on Jun 24, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Hi Roger. This Soft Down Lid Support will be an excellent choice for your Pecan Lid. Follow the instructions
closely as dimensions are critical . You may view the Toy Chest where I used these supports. In the collage. The chest is located near left center and has a ten spindle back support. Gordon O.
Would this work for a tilt open garbage cabinet door?
Adam E on Mar 7, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes it worked great for that. Some what of a challenge to get mounted because of the angle. But it is doable. I actually made a sample to work out the mounting angle.
Will this lid support work with full overlay frameless hinges?
Barton M on Feb 14, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Hi Barton, I used a piano hinge as in the picture, but see no reason why the wouldn't work with Blum or other similar hinges.
Best, Jonathan
I have a mud room box that the lid weighs about 17 pounds and is 16" wide. what type of soft close hinge (2) could be used mounted on the inside on the sides?
Joe R on Feb 6, 2019
BEST ANSWER: I would use the lid stay torsion hinge number 31891 or one of the other numbers for heavier lids or you could use the box lid support right and left numbers 26211 and 26187 and they also make for heavier lids. I have used both with good results.
How much depth is needed for hinge when top is closed?
Peggy K on Dec 26, 2018
BEST ANSWER: My hinge is installed near the edge and the arm is 5 1/8 inches inside when closed. Hope ''tis answers your question.