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Soft Down Lid Support

Protect those little fingers from unpleasant surprises with these gently closing lid supports. Ideal for toy boxes, piano benches and other lidded furniture.
Item #
69732
Rating:
88% of 100

Lids lower gently--never crushing fingers. Support opens lids to a maximum angle of 105° and is 8-7/8" long overall. They have nickel plated steel arms with cream colored plastic housing. Compact design makes these supports ideal for installing in tight places. Use one support per 43 inch/lbs. Determine inch/lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2.

(1) Soft Down Lid Support
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Brand Sugatsune
Manufacturer Part Number SDS-210-UMBER
Weight 0.3500
Discountable Yes
Open Degree 105
Finish Brass
4.4 / 5.0
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February 8, 2020
Purchased
over 4 years ago
Woodworking Experience:
Advanced
Great product and effective as a soft close mechanism
February 8, 2020
Purchased
1 month ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Great product!
I recommend this soft closer. It works very well!
February 4, 2020
Purchased
1 month ago
Soft down lid support
Works perfectly and very easy to install. Will buy again!
January 13, 2020
Purchased
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Soft Down Lid Support by Sugatsune at Rockler
I installed the lid support on a large wooden toy box used by my grandson. The lid would really slam down hard before, but now it quietly lowers, requiring about 30 seconds to completely close. When it is pulled up to full vertical, the lid support holds it open, freeing up a hand to organize box contents, etc. Installation was very easy, good instructions and quality hardware. Design is very clever and easily adjustable. I'm truly impressed by this product.
January 11, 2020
Purchased
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Used these on several blanket chests. They work quite well. Don't have to worry about the kids getting their finger pinched.
January 5, 2020
Purchased
1 year ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Two soft close supports worked exactly as promised on my 22 pound oak lid. Good product glad I purchased
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December 28, 2019
Purchased
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
The soft down lid supports are awesome! Work very well.
The instructions, had to convert mm to inches, other than that great product!
December 26, 2019
Purchased
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Advanced
Soft down lid support
Does what it says in the box.
December 13, 2019
Purchased
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Excellent closer.
December 7, 2019
Purchased
3 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Advanced
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Very simple to install and effective soft down lid support.
Jay C on Feb 18, 2020
I need for an existing blanket cabinet.
Larry G on Feb 12, 2020
Very simple to install and effective soft down lid support.
Jay C on Feb 18, 2020
My husband was looking for a soft close hinge for a drafting table he is building and saw this Sugatsune hinge on a you tube video.<br />Thank You,<br />Lori
Laraine B on Feb 17, 2020
I need for an existing blanket cabinet.
Larry G on Feb 12, 2020
need it
William P on Feb 5, 2020
This looks like it will be perfect for the school we are helping. They have these big box cabinets they keep their gym equipment in. They have no soft close or support on them so when they are closed... SLAM!!! They asked me what they should do and I found you... I hope your product works...
John H on Feb 3, 2020
I will be using on a toy box and I do not my grandbaby get hurt from the lid coming down.
Steven H on Feb 2, 2020
I found the exact lid supports I needed and a new company to look at new tools and equipment. Thanks, Paul
Paul F on Feb 2, 2020
building a toy chest. safety
Rick on Jan 31, 2020
Other choices don’t work!
Andrew E on Jan 27, 2020
Am revamping a toy box for my granddaughter, thought this would work.
Freda S on Jan 26, 2020
Replacing a broken one like this.
Fred V on Jan 19, 2020
I have purchased one before and am ordering another one for a new project.
K C on Jan 17, 2020
Have used it in the past and had good luck with it. Used for grandsons toy box
Tim F on Jan 14, 2020
It's what I needed for a large hope chest.
Cynthia S on Jan 14, 2020
My husband is building a toy box for our new granddaughter and wanted something to make sure she wouldn't get her fingers caught....that is when she's old enough.
Margaret H on Jan 12, 2020
videos and reviews
John D on Jan 10, 2020
I was given a toy box for my granddaughter and needed to add a soft close feature on the lid. Rockler products are top quality and I knew if they offered it, the product had to be good.
Leslie on Jan 8, 2020
Safety of little fingers is important granddaughters tou & storage box
Linda V on Jan 8, 2020
Replacement for Tack Trunk support
" " on Jan 6, 2020
I have a new window seat I am having custom made and I needed a latch that would allow for soft closing.
Crystal J on Jan 3, 2020
to add to a child toy box I am building
Todd O on Jan 3, 2020
couple of projects could use these and finally had to make a decision to get moving with something.
Robert K on Dec 28, 2019
I already have one on the chest, however it is not strong enough for the weight. I need two.
Aaron B on Dec 25, 2019
Item was recommended by fellow woodworker.
Jay C on Dec 23, 2019
have used before and are like the way the operate
Anthony P on Dec 23, 2019
these are fantastic lid supports. I have used them on toy box lids and they work great!<br />I just bought another one for the next project
Joe R on Dec 22, 2019
Used it in a previous toy chest I made and works great.
Richard L on Dec 22, 2019
Save little fingers
Jerry R on Dec 20, 2019
Recommended by another buyer
Patricia H on Dec 17, 2019
Replacement
Dennis A on Dec 17, 2019
I need a safe lid holder for my toy box project. I've been using Rockler for years and have confidence in their products. If they are selling it, it has been checked out by competent craftsmen. <br />Keep up the great work Rockler!<br />Bill
Bill H on Dec 14, 2019
I used them on a previous project, and really liked the way they work.
Stan H on Dec 11, 2019
It surely wasn't because of the reasonable shipping rates.
Brandon F on Dec 7, 2019
Size cost - for toy box.
Mark G on Dec 5, 2019
It looked like the best product for my needs.
Jared C on Dec 5, 2019
for child's toy box
Rod S on Dec 4, 2019
Put on toy chest for a child
Don M on Dec 3, 2019
Building a toy box for my grandson
Tim F on Dec 2, 2019
I have been trying to find a supplier of quality furniture hardware. FINALLY....Thank you<br />Rockler. Building toy boxes for grand children.<br />You will be seeing me again!!!
Douglas Y on Dec 2, 2019
built toy boxes for grandkids and needed safety supports
Cleon T on Dec 2, 2019
My husband used these lid supports when building toy boxes and liked the way they work. He is now making a quilt chest and will be using these again.
D R on Dec 2, 2019
Im building a window bench for my 5 year old granddaughter as a Christmas present.
Art P on Dec 2, 2019
for an antique bench trunk to be used as a toy box.
Diane B on Nov 25, 2019
I made a youngster a toy box and for safety reasons I wanted a soft close
sandra w on Nov 24, 2019
For an old chest that we want to have our grandchildren use as a toy chest
William P on Nov 18, 2019
My grandpa made toyboxes for all his grandchildren. I have young children now, so we're updating the lid support to a soft close mechanism.
Emily Sentman M on Nov 12, 2019
It's for a toy box. We don't want to smash any little fingers.
Sue R on Nov 12, 2019
I'm giving my 67 year old toy chest to my great-grandchildren, and I'm bringing it up to modern safety standards.
J B on Nov 12, 2019
child toy box.
David D on Nov 10, 2019
Used them before. They work well!
john w on Nov 8, 2019
My husband was looking for a soft close hinge for a drafting table he is building and saw this Sugatsune hinge on a you tube video.<br />Thank You,<br />Lori
Laraine B on Feb 17, 2020
need it
William P on Feb 5, 2020
how many needed for lid 10 pounds 19 inches wide ?
ronnie j on Apr 24, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You would need 2 of these supports.
I have built a toy Box with a lid that is 26lbs. and 42" by 22" . I want the lid to close slowly. What size do I need and will it require 2?
OldWrangler on Oct 3, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I would recommend at least two lid support as you have 286 inch pounds to hold.
Rocklers item #26237 and #26203 are a right hand and left hand support. and have a max rating of 125 in. pounds. If more is need then #26153 would be sufficient to carry the extra weight. It is a 35-40 inch pound back mount support
If I have a box that will require 2 of these are they ambidextrous? I dont see a left and right?
Will G on Jun 22, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Yes, completely ambidextrous.
I see there is a knuckle in this support. Do you have to pull the hinge to unlock it, or can you simply pull down on the lid?
Michael B on Sep 29, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You pull down the lid. The product works great. Very impressed with the product
The apparatus resists strongly when lifting the lid. It will even lift the front off of the floor. It offers no resistance at all when closing. It just slams shut. My toy box is very small with a small lid. My installation looks just like the pictures, closes and opens all the way up and down. What am I missing?
Jim T on May 13, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Sorry, I can't help you with this. I think I remember that the distance from the back of the box and the rod placement on the lid are critical measurements.
The measurement from front to back of the top is in inches or ft?
Patrick C on Nov 4, 2016
BEST ANSWER: The dimension (front to back, is in inches, and the weight in pounds). This produces the force measurement in inch / pounds. Trust the in/lb ratings advertised - they work
does this lid support open up a full 90 degs, if not what is the maxim opening degs.?
Jerry S on Apr 22, 2016
BEST ANSWER: As I remember it does, or very close to 90 degrees. I installed a set for someone else.
Do these Soft lid supports come in Right and Left or do they work either way?
Terry G on Jan 7, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes. Make sure you use lid weight calculation to determine if two are required.
I am going to use this for a toy box. What hinge style do you recommend? For a fairly heavy lid?
LIren S on Sep 14, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Please use the lid weight formula in the Rockler Catalog to determine if you need on or two soft down lids. I was border line on whether to use one or two and decide to use two. It turned out it was the right choice. If children are going to be opening and closing the lid I would definitely use two. The soft down lid is really a good quality lid mechanism and not that difficult to install.
would this work on3/4" mdf 29"x42"?
John P on Sep 12, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I use done an a 20 x 36" oak lid and it works fine, but it does not hold the lid open unless it is beyond 90 degrees. It does close softly.

Since MDF is much heavier than oak, and you are working with twice as many square inches, you will need something stronger.
does it come left or right? not seeing the answer I need.. It says comes quantity (1).. i only need one but need it on the left??
Kelly G on Oct 26, 2019
BEST ANSWER: If I am standing in front of the box, I install it on the right side. I think you can mount it on either side. You only need one unless the box is over 4' long. I hope this helps.
I have a medium size display box (DIY project) that I created with a flat lid. Will this lid support keep the lid up? The lid is less than 5 lbs, but I don't want to constantly hold it while putting items in it.
Casandra on Apr 25, 2019
BEST ANSWER: They work very well. I would advise experimenting a little with placement as the instructions are not the best and I wound up making my own templates. But, get them in the right place and I love them.
What size and how many soft close supports for 6 ft long lid on toy box?
Donna N on Nov 16, 2018
BEST ANSWER: I have used the “soft down lid support” on two different projects and am very pleased.
Each project, the lid is approximately 36in long x 22in deep using 2 stays, one was not enough. I would use the inch pounds formula for larger lid.
Does the lid lock up and soft going down. As i am trying to use it on a mirror covering a niche, and i want it to hold the mirror open at a 90° angle ?
Roger B on Oct 31, 2019
BEST ANSWER: These soft down lid supports I've used to support the top of a walnut cedar chest. They have worked great and support this heavy top on the chest. Pleased with this item and easy to install
I'm building a storage twin bed where the lid opens. 1/2" plywood approximately 39" x "78. Would this work?
Jamie C on Aug 8, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Hi Jamie. I would hesitate using this Soft Down Lid Support for the application to your twin bed. Plywood of 1/2 inch may flex/bend. Consider the loading of bedding in your choice of a stronger Lid Support and the use of 3/4 inch plywood with cross supports. I would look to one of the gas spring choices P/N 34373 or 32924. Ask Rockler to explain the load capacities as this is not indicated is the descriptions. Gordon O
Need something for my storage box under my bed in a camper. So I don't need 105° closer to 65° and the more you open the lid the more bedding your pushing so it's increasing the lb as you increase the angle. And I need it to hold solid at that 65° angle. Will these work for me?
Shane R on Jun 7, 2019
BEST ANSWER: No. This needs to open greater than 90 degrees from horizontal or it will close, albeit slowly. If this will have the weight of bedding on it, I think it will make it that more likely to close, although it will do so slowly. It’s meant to prevent accidental crash downs but it is not meant to hold a lid open if it’s working against gravity/ weight of bedding
If I only open it half way, does it lock into place or does it soft close ?
Jon B on Feb 28, 2019
BEST ANSWER: It will close slowly. Just remember to get one strong enough for the size lid. I had to get stronger ones twice before I had the correct ones for the lid ( on a hope chest) that I was using them for.
The lid is 20 lbs and 6 ft. Long. How many soft closures would I need?
Donna N on Nov 16, 2018
BEST ANSWER: The lids we have used this Soft Down Lid Support for weigh about 20 pounds. They are made of oak & measure 30” long by 18” wide. One Support is plenty for us, so one support should be plenty for your lid also.
I have a large chest the lid will be 1400mm x 800mm 30mm thick about 15kg (30lb) will this unit do the job I will be using 2 ?
S H on Mar 12, 2017
BEST ANSWER: 15kg and 800mm width implies 15 x 2.2 x 800 / 25.4 / 2 lb.ins = 520 lb.in. Each support can carry 125 lb.ins.
This lid is too heavy for even 2 supports. You need to look for a stronger product
What is the minimum depth from bottom of box that they can be used? My activity desk is only 2 1/4 in deep. Will this work?
Bob Y on Mar 23, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Assuming the device is mounted as near flush as possible with the top of the desk side. I measured from the projecting peg shown in the photo, to the bottom of the arc of the plastic body, as it rotates, and mine appears to need about 2 3/4" minimum clearance.
I'm building a toy barn where you can open a portion of the roof measuring 7" x 24", will this lid support work since overall length is 8-7/8"?
Greg N on Jan 16, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes, it should work just fine. The lid support is hinged, so it folds down into about a 5" length. I used it on a tack trunk and it works great. Very smooth and sturdy.
Can I use this for my trapped door in my floor? Door weighs about 90lbs
A shopper on Jun 18, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I don't think these will work, even with one on each side. The formula is: "Use one support per 43" /lbs. Figure" /lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2. "

Note that the spec is "inch /pounds" (not exactly clear).

I used one for a wash stand top that weighs about 12 pounds and it is marginal.
I have a very heavy solid wood top on a chest. Will this be strong enough to use. And would I need two for the chest or just one?
Sheila D on Jan 9, 2020
BEST ANSWER: I use 2 of them on a toy chest. The top is approximately 16 x 32 and 3/4" thick. They work great. Sounds like your top might be larger so i would check the specs and estimate the weight of your top. There shoukd be some specs on line to estimate the weight of your top.
Don't understand support capability formula. How many pounds will this bracket support? In my case the lid weight is 20 pounds and front to back is 24 inches.. Will this bracket provide adequate support?
Larry G on Oct 11, 2019
BEST ANSWER: We put one bracket on each side because it was a really heavy steamer trunk. It was a curved top and it was for our 4 year old granddaughter. No pinched fingers here!
I've got a pine lid for a toy box that is between 6-7 lbs and 16 in deep.. it comes out to about 50-55 torsion measurement. I can't figure out if one rated at 43 will be enough or if I need 2.?For a 1 year old
Jeremiah J on Jul 24, 2019
BEST ANSWER: I installed one and liked it very much. I subject that you install one and see if you find it safe enough.
Do these lock in position when they are fully extended??
Samuel J on Jul 13, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes if ion to a little over 90 degrees
I have a pecan wood lid that is 3/4" thick , 24" L x 18" w. I don't know how much it weighs but it's heavy , any ideas ?
Roger P on Jun 24, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Hi Roger. This Soft Down Lid Support will be an excellent choice for your Pecan Lid. Follow the instructions
closely as dimensions are critical . You may view the Toy Chest where I used these supports. In the collage. The chest is located near left center and has a ten spindle back support. Gordon O.
Would this work for a tilt open garbage cabinet door?
Adam E on Mar 7, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Yes it worked great for that. Some what of a challenge to get mounted because of the angle. But it is doable. I actually made a sample to work out the mounting angle.
Will this lid support work with full overlay frameless hinges?
Barton M on Feb 14, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Hi Barton, I used a piano hinge as in the picture, but see no reason why the wouldn't work with Blum or other similar hinges.
Best, Jonathan
I have a mud room box that the lid weighs about 17 pounds and is 16" wide. what type of soft close hinge (2) could be used mounted on the inside on the sides?
Joe R on Feb 6, 2019
BEST ANSWER: I would use the lid stay torsion hinge number 31891 or one of the other numbers for heavier lids or you could use the box lid support right and left numbers 26211 and 26187 and they also make for heavier lids. I have used both with good results.