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A fold down bed mechanism is perfect for guests, small rooms and apartments.
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Fold Down Bed Mechanism Vertical Mount - Twin - 82-1/8" (H) x 42-7/8" (W)
Fold Down Bed Mechanism Vertical Mount - Twin - 82-1/8" (H) x 42-7/8" (W) Item #: 89616
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$249.99
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Fold Down Bed Mechanism Vertical Mount - Full - 82-1/8" (H) x 57-7/8" (W)
Fold Down Bed Mechanism Vertical Mount - Full - 82-1/8" (H) x 57-7/8" (W) Item #: 89624
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$249.99
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Fold Down Bed Mechanism Vertical Mount - Queen - 87-1/8" (H) x 63-7/8" (W)
Fold Down Bed Mechanism Vertical Mount - Queen - 87-1/8" (H) x 63-7/8" (W) Item #: 89632
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$249.99
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Vertical Mount Murphy Bed Hardware

Item #
GRP17212_1
Rating:
96% of 100

This finely engineered hardware is counterbalanced for smooth operation without binding or overextending. Mechanism uses a sophisticated piston lift system rather than old-fashioned springs that can snap back. Beds are held securely closed, and open gently for added safety. Steel pivot pin and bracket points install easily without adjustments. Includes instructions for basic cabinet construction and instructional DVD. Hardware available in Twin, Full or Queen Sizes.


Features:

  • Perfect for small rooms and apartments
  • State of the Art piston lift system and counter balancing ensure smooth operation
  • Murphy Bed Hardware Kits include detailed instruction booklet and DVD for building a basic cabinet and for mounting the hardware
  • Locking design prevents bed from being lowered without first opening the legs
  • No floor mounting required; Cabinet must be anchored to the wall to ensure safety
  • Cabinet can be made of plycore particle board or solid wood
  • Maximum Mattress Thickness: 12''
  • Recommended for standard mattress sizes; no box spring is used
  • High quality hardware kits carry a 10-Year Limited Warranty
  • Can accommodate for sleeping up to 1,000 lbs
(1) Vertical Mount Murphy Bed Hardware Kit in either twin, full, or queen size (1) Detailed Instruction Booklet & DVD (Lumber and Mattress not included)
More Information
Brand No
Manufacturer Part Number No
Weight 8.9900
Tech Spec Murphy Bed Basic Cabinet Dimensions
  • Twin (#89616): 82-1/8" (H) x 42-7/8" (W) x 15-7/8" (D). Open Projection - 80"
  • Full (#89624): 82-1/8" (H) x 57-7/8" (W) x 15-7/8" (D). Open Projection - 80"
  • Queen (#89632): 87-1/8" (H) x 63-7/8" (W) x 15-7/8" (D). Open Projection - 84"
Tech Docs
Hardware Type No
Hardware Style Frameless
Mount Vertical
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Great product
I did a bit of research and chose this kit over others available online. I'm very happy with it overall.

I built this with my dad and a a few of my friends. Overall I put somewhere between 20-25 hours. My mattress is 12.5" so we added an extra inch to the depth of the cabinet and it works great.

I'm not an experienced woodworker, so it's not a beautiful piece of furniture, but it's also basic enough that's it's definitely not an eyesore. It's saving me a ton of room in my new apartment and it's serving the purpose I intended.
July 30, 2018
Purchased
2 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Beginner
Great kit
I made our bed full size for our den so it could function as a third bedroom. The full size bed was perfect to allow for a closet on either side. The outer half bifold door stays closed with a magnet latch. Because I made the bed deeper to allow for the face of the bed to match up with the closet doors, I was able to make a shelf for the headboard. The sculpture hanging on the bed almost completely hid that it was a wall bed. It was lightweight for removing. My wife got it from from Pier1.
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July 16, 2018
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Well made and Well supported
I love this kit! Added a Murphy Bed to a 3rd bedroom for occasional use. Had to use this Full Size kit as it had the shortest bed height. It had to fit under a heating duct, so overhead space was severely limited. Kit was a little underwhelming when it arrived as the under bed support was not included. Seems you have to make your 3/4" X 3/4" by 48" long support out of wood to connect the fold out legs. I used a 5/8" ID piece of aluminum tubing, painted it crackle black and it works and looks much nicer. The kit comes very complete and the instructions and video are top notch. Do be aware there are two sets of instructions, colored orange for particle board and green for plywood. What the instructions don't say is they only care IF the bed frame is particle board or plywood due to the difference in wait and where the supports need to be mounted. I called the factory for help, and the engineer said since I was covering my plywood backboard with Masonite bead board, I should use the particle board instructions. When I mounted my frame to the wall during construction, I could not get the hydraulic cylinder to engage and called the same engineer back. You would not believe the level of support this company provides. They took back my cylinders, compressed them in the factory and returned to me for no charge! Shorter cylinders fit like a charm and the bands that hold the cylinders compressed fell right off after installation. Love this kit.
Bed open. Notice i used 5/4" maple sides on the bed frame. Though, solid wood was not recommended.
Bed closed. Notice impaired overhead space under duct work.
June 14, 2018
Murphy Bed ready for Mrs Murphy's visit!
Quite a project!

Just announced to our friend, Mrs Murphy, that her bed is almost ready for her visit!

We moved from a home that had room to sleep at least 6-8 overnight guests to one with a single guest room that needed to be used as a sewing room too, so this unit will make the most use of our limited space.

Admittedly, we shopped around, comparing the cost of commercially built ones to a few different "kits." Not only was this one the most practical, but it seemed that the hardware provided was better than others.

Included plans were useful but since Don is a cabinetmaker by trade, he did make some adjustments.

Ex, he didn't care for the 4 handles in most illustrations and added 2 half circle shelves to give the leg blocks a reason for being there. Since the shelves are small, I put non-breakable figures on them... in case we forget to remove them before opening the bed! (The shelves rest on the floor when unit is open)

In addition, he pre-finished EVERYTHING, right down to the final coat, then assembled the unit according to the plans. The cherry stain matches a pair of dressers he made over 50 years ago that are in the room (& contain sewing supplies!).

The molding on the front hides the joining of the 2 front panels and has 2 "V" grooves to conceal the finishing nails used to apply it.

He gave me side shelf units to store some of my sewing books and knick-knacks and the lower cupboards for linens that will be used on the bed.

Our 2 daughters and a son-in-law came over for a work-party to help install everything last Monday and it came together quickly and without a hitch!

On Tuesday, Don picked up a board and fabricated the crown molding. Yesterday, he installed it for the finishing touch!

Don cautions that 3/4" lumber is no longer 3/4". He had no problems on that matter, but it might be good to warn less experienced woodworkers on that point.

NOW .. we go mattress shopping!
Murphy bed 2
Molding joint
Shelf/leg
Crown molding and mitered corner of molding
March 18, 2018
Purchased
8 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Advanced
Turned a den into a spare bedroom!
Our condo had no good option for sleeping overnight guests. This kit and it’s instructions and accompanying video took all of the mystery and uncertainty out of the construction.
We were able to complete it in four weekend days and a few evenings. It works smoothly and has already been tested by my son and daughter-in-law to rave reviews!
The view in “hotel room mode”!
Birch plywood with poplar trim
Open and ready for use. We added trim and a fold down shelf to the headboard.
January 6, 2018
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
murphy bed
this is the second one I have built. the hardware is unbeatable and the plans are practicaly goof proof
December 18, 2017
Purchased
9 months ago
Woodworking Experience:
Beginner
Vertical bed hardwear
The hard wear package was complete and worked as I expected.
We have since sold the house so i don t have a photo.
November 11, 2017
Purchased
over 2 years ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
as advertised
I originally intended to build the bed into a bookcase, but opted to make just the bed. It was fairly easy to make even with limited experience. My main limitation was my skill on the table saw and a couple botched measurements. Other than that it went well and the be is certainly what was advertised. It works beautifully.
August 12, 2017
Purchased
1 year ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
Easy to follow instructions with the hardware kit, Thank You I have been adding a few things as I go to strengthen the frame. I would recommend this hardware to anyone thinking about a Murphy Bed.
With front trim details added
Inside of  bed frame
July 31, 2017
Purchased
1 year ago
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
love this bed!
We have a cabin in northern WI that was built by my husband using old barn wood and other recycled materials. For the past 30 years, we have been sleeping on a screened porch that doubled as a gathering spot for cocktails and evening talks. Needless to say, the bed has taken up a lot of space. We decided on a Murphy bed last winter and found this design. We used the exact materials recommended and measured twice before cutting once. We hauled the cut wood up north and had it assembled and installed in 2 short days. We also installed some extra screening on the bottom and lower back panel to mouse proof it. We absolutely love this bed. It's easy to raise and lower and it almost doubles the usable porch space. We couldn't match the barn wood, so we used birch plywood for the contrast. This is one of our better DIY projects.
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May 15, 2017
Woodworking Experience:
Intermediate
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Why did you choose this?
Rockler Store
Our son installed a Murphy bed using this hardware and was extremely please with the product.
Bonnie S on Aug 9, 2018
The locking feature won me over
michele a. a on Jul 27, 2018
Our son installed a Murphy bed using this hardware and was extremely please with the product.
Bonnie S on Aug 9, 2018
Because Rockler is a solid company, and I have used them for many years in my wood shop.
Denise L on Aug 9, 2018
The locking feature won me over
michele a. a on Jul 27, 2018
Need something for a small apartment.
Kerry K on Jul 12, 2018
Guest room
Rob M on Jul 9, 2018
Building for a spare bedroom and the reviews and support by your other customers was very positive. Looking forward to a great project!
David P on Jul 8, 2018
Price compared to other on line kits. I have shopped at Rockler for years and there products are very good produces.
Kenneth B on Jul 6, 2018
We have small rooms and this will give us more floor area during the day for working out and laying out quilts.
Tamara H on Jul 3, 2018
Because Morphy beds are expensive to buy, and this kits makes it possible to own one.
Morteza K on May 29, 2018
Don’t like the legs on the other -the deluxe. Like the standard.

If the legs were different
Joseph M on May 23, 2018
build a murphy bed
Dorothy H on May 21, 2018
Good price on a first purchase.
Roger G on May 1, 2018
Recommended by my Father who purchased this product.
Thomas G on Apr 27, 2018
Best choice I could find for the price. Ask me again after I get it and assemble it, may have a different comment.
William N on Apr 9, 2018
Have been wanting to make this bed for years. Got the plans from you a few years ago. Can't wait to get started.
Virginia F on Apr 6, 2018
We have a 3rd bedroom that doubles as a workout room and guest room, so a Murphybed accomplishes the needs of the room perfectly.
Anthony L. K on Mar 25, 2018
Rockler has a good reputation for quality, and it was the recommended hardware in Woodsmith Plans for a Murphy Bed project.
Randall M on Mar 20, 2018
From the Internet
Deepak K on Mar 20, 2018
for murphy bed
Elizabeth G on Mar 14, 2018
home owner request
TOD O on Feb 21, 2018
I need a hide-away bed to replace a sofa couch.
CHAD S on Feb 13, 2018
Great product. Easy instructions. Tuff product.
Robert C on Feb 7, 2018
Price
Allen F on Jan 17, 2018
Piston mechanism and the best price on the internet. Rockler is known for quality.
Joan P on Jan 13, 2018
This is the best deal on quality hardware you will find. Trust me, I searched !
Randy S on Jan 12, 2018
It suits our needs perfectly!
Donald M on Jan 2, 2018
PROJECT FOR A SEWING ROOM TO SAVE SPACE.
Darreld R Shoop I on Jan 1, 2018
I am building a murphy bed to create an office space since my kids move out on their own. Also, I want to keep a guest room.
Rafael F on Dec 23, 2017
Excellent way to allow for a dual use space in smaller rooms
Ronald B on Nov 29, 2017
Needed it
Bruce K on Nov 16, 2017
used before
D A on Nov 7, 2017
Need this item for when quests come. Full size is as large as we could go.
Sandra M on Nov 7, 2017
excellent price!
TODD H on Oct 29, 2017
We have used Rocker for other items. We trust them. Also my husband used this kit for a customer a few years ago
gloria S on Oct 23, 2017
I made one for myself last year , this one I will make for a friend of mine . It is a very good hardware kit you sell and the instructions are very easy to follow .
Jerry M on Oct 4, 2017
this is the second one I have made for my son, easy to use.
Stephen L on Sep 10, 2017
It had good reviews.
Debra Z on Sep 3, 2017
To help with sanding
Garrett H on Aug 8, 2017
Decent price, sounds reliable and wanted to build woodwork myself.
John B on Jul 10, 2017
I made a bed from this kit 4 years ago and it is a great kit and a great bed. My wife decided we needed another one.
Howard B on Jul 7, 2017
Reviews were helpful and positive feedback was useful in making my decision.
Paul W on May 6, 2017
We have a spare room that we'd like to continue using as a crafting space but convert to a bedroom when guests come to town.
Jennifer C on May 6, 2017
Ratings from online customers.
Craig D on May 1, 2017
Create space in second bedroom.
Jaime V on Apr 22, 2017
spare room to become more useful for crafts
Barbara J on Mar 9, 2017
BUILDING THIS FOR OUR OFFICE
Joseph C on Mar 7, 2017
space
Christopher M on Mar 2, 2017
I chose the Rockler hardware because it was recommended by many woodworkers who had used the hardware and posted reviews or commented in forums.
Rob W on Feb 27, 2017
I need to use the bedroom for more than a guest room and this looks like the right option.
Mary T on Feb 15, 2017
Dad has built 2 and says it's the best!
Cindy R on Feb 5, 2017
Because Rockler is a solid company, and I have used them for many years in my wood shop.
Denise L on Aug 9, 2018
Need something for a small apartment.
Kerry K on Jul 12, 2018
What would be a conservative total cost of wood estimate assuming I am buying lumber from a big box store?
Matt C on Feb 26, 2016
BEST ANSWER: My cost for oak plywood and other lumber was $260.00 Edge banding worked fine.
What is the difference between the basic and deluxe Murphy bed options?
A shopper on May 14, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I believe the difference is in the locking mechanism and bed feet. With the standard kit, you create the legs out of wood. It becomes a feature on the face of the cabinet while the bed is in that stored position. With the deluxe kit, there are metal legs that retract in the storage position. I purchased the standard.
do you have installation instructions?
Tom S on Jun 8, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Instructions come with the product
How high does the bed rest off of the ground? What is the leg height? I am wondering if I can build some sort of seating on the front that will use the vertical Murphy bed as a back rest but will act as additional support when the bed is folded down.
Tim M on Aug 19, 2015
Vertical Mount Murphy Bed Hardware
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BEST ANSWER: The leg is about 7 inches so that will be your ground clearance. I'm in the process of doing exactly what you described so I modified the plans. Is you're using 4x8 boards, you can add about 8 inches to the vertical cabinet height and adjust your plans accordingly. This will give you about 15 inches of clearance for the bench height. If you use removable cushions for the bench, that should provide adequate seating height.
There are two vertical bed items: Item #: 46025 and Item #: 89624. What is the difference other than the price difference?
David B on Dec 21, 2015
Vertical Mount Murphy Bed Hardware
Vertical Mount Murphy Bed Hardware
Vertical Mount Deluxe Murphy Bed Hardware
Vertical Mount Deluxe Murphy Bed Hardware
BEST ANSWER: If you refer to the picture of the Vertical Mount Murphy Bed in the closed position you will notice the four decorative elements in the upper panels. Two of these fold out/down to become legs that the bed rests on.

The Vertical Mount Deluxe bed does not require these legs. As you can see in the image, it utilizes a fold down leg which pivots around the mattress when in the closed position.
Do the plans come in Spanish? I live in Mexico and would like our carpenter to build this bed for us, but he doesn't speak English. Having these plans in Spanish would be a great help to us. Thanks!
Kristi on Dec 29, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I don't know if they provide in Spanish, however what I can say is the plans provided are very detail and easy to follow. I am not a carpenter and I was ale to build my bed with ease.
Is there any sort of safety lock with bed in up AND down positions to keep a child from activating? Considering this for a precocious autistic toddler.
s m on Oct 3, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I've built two of these so far. They certainly lock in the up position, but not in the down; it's the weight of the mattress that keeps it down. For a toddler, it would not pose a risk in my opinion; although it's not too heavy for any adult to lift back into the up position, it would not really be possible for a toddler. In the up position, the release mechanisms are too high for your little one to reach.
How about attaching a fold-out desk for use when the bed is not down?
A shopper on Jul 12, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You should be able to possibly by attaching it to the bed with a piano hinge your similar him set upEnter an answer to this question.
Is it possible to make the legs longer so the bed is higher up from the ground?
Joanne M on Jul 22, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Call the Create-A-Bed phone number on the front of instructions to ensure you make all the appropriate changes. They are very accessible and willing to take the time to help.

I raised my Create-A-Bed Standard Queen by 3-1/2 inches to match the height of the standard bed I was replacing. Aaron at Create-A-Bed graciously went through each page of the yellow and blue instructions that would be affected by the change in height. Basically, I added the height change to the length of the two vertical cabinet boards, and to all dimensions on the vertical cabinet boards that are measured from the bottom up. Again, you should call Create-A-Bed.

For my 3-1/2" height increase, Aaron explained that the two standard individual legs would not be strong enough to support the foot of the bed. We discussed using a piano hinge and a solid board the same width as the two face panels (like a shelf). With Aaron’s help, I decided to use the board and mount it with the hinges that came in the kit. I used 4 of the kit hinges (got 2 more), mounted as instructed (2 additional holes in face panels), and attached the board to all four hinges. This requires taking extra care to ensure each hinge is mounted square and at the exact dimensions on the board so the hinges would work in unison.
if completed bed will not close all the way, what adjustments can be made? mattress is not too thick. nothing is physically blocking it. closing struts appear to have some room left for compression.
anthony k on Aug 3, 2017
BEST ANSWER: call the company and ask them.
My basement ceiling is 86 inches from the floor. I would like to build the queen size vertical bed but the dimensions for the cabinet list it as 87 1/8 inches. Is it possible to make it shorter?
Jay B on Oct 12, 2015
BEST ANSWER: You might be able to take an inch off the top since it has a little over an inch in depth. That area is also the strength of the top of the box so think about reinforcing that area since that keeps the structure from going out of square, then it will not close. You could also take a little of the bottom but then you will have to shorten the legs that are part of the front design or the bed will not be level. Also remember you may be tipping the whole cabinet up if you move it in flat and then tip up and need a little extra headroom. I was very happy with our bed just follow the instructions they were great.
Any way to adapt to a 3/4 width bed? i.e. a 48 inch wide mattress? (overnight guest bed in a confined space but for an adult who needs a smudge more space than a kid.)
Ann S on Nov 5, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Yes, just adjust your measurements for the width and make sure your mattress would fit. You may have to add weight to the end on the inside to keep the bed down. Hope this helps.
I have an opening in the wall that is 18" deep but only 62 5/8" wide. Since a queen mattress is 60" wide, is it possible to build the cabinet narrower than the 63 7/8" to accommodate the size of the opening?
Leif R on Nov 6, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Leif, I've built two of these and have very happy customers. I understand your issue, and it's PROBABLY ok to narrow it a bit. The bed is constructed with a little extra room all around to that the bed can be raised without having to remove all the sheets and blankets. Narrowing it by 1 1/4" will likely mean the bedding will have to be removed from the sides of the bed; just folding the sides of the bedspread up on top of the mattress will likely allow for the bed to fit OK into the up position. It's going to be a tighter fit than the bed is designed for, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work. In the picture here, you see the bedspread is draped over the sides of the mattress, just fold those sides up on top of the mattress, then close the bed, should work just fine. Hope this helps. Alan in Texas
Do the instructions take into account base boards? Or will this sit off the wall a bit?
C. D on Jul 24, 2018
BEST ANSWER: The plans are for the bed cabinet verticals, the side walls, to mount flush to the wall from top to bottom. If you have baseboards you will have to either cut them away from the wall at the attachment points or cut the bottoms of the verticals so that the rest of the verticals fit flush against the wall. I guess you could adjust the plans and leave a gap but that is not what was intended nor recommended.
I would like to use a 16 in mattress that I really love.. Would it be possible to use this hardware?? It says just for 12 inches!!
Hector J on Jun 26, 2017
BEST ANSWER: I would say that a 16 inch thick mattress would not work. The plans call for the side panels to be 16 inches wide. the mattress sits in a box that has a 3/4 in thick bottom and a cross member that is 3/4 inches thick combined 1.5 inches subtracts from the depth of the pocket where the mattress would fit. I believe you could adjust the dimensions to make it work, but it would deviate from the plans so you would do it at your own risk. I use auto cad- light and often change plans but am very certain the plans would work.
I'm using a cot mattress (from Canada) which is approximately 30" wide. Looking at the kit, it seems that I should be able to build the bed to fit any size mattress. Is that the case or am I restricted to a traditional twin size as the smallest one possible?
Dennis F on Mar 10, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I bought my kit from rockler and modified it extensively. I'm an engineer and had the skills to do all the stress and moment calculations to make it work. If you're handy, the smaller bed may work ok but you may have to add counter weight to keep it balanced.
what is the profile as it is lowered? I have a ceiling fan in the room to miss. Wondering if they have a hardware kit that keeps the bed low as possible yet ends with it being off the floor
jeff on Mar 6, 2016
BEST ANSWER: The bed is only 6 inches off the floor. I installed this bed in a 9x9 room that also has a ceiling fan and I didn't have any trouble clearing the fan. The fan is mounted close to the ceiling and the bed pivots close to the wall so by the time it reaches the fan it's lower than the fan.
Does the bed require a lock to keep it in the raised position?
Mary H on Feb 8, 2018
BEST ANSWER: This kit comes with everything needed to keep it in either position and is secured nicely without worrying about falling down on a person, child or pet. Proper alignment is essential to making all of the items work well with each other but once you have all the measurements laid out you are good to go! Enjoy!
I would like hardware only for the bed and not the bookshelves. Do your kits come only with bed mounting hardware?
Sherri M on Jan 29, 2017
BEST ANSWER: The picture is an example of how the bed could be done. The hardware is a separate thing. You can design the bed how you choose.
How thick can the mattress be?
Marla F on Sep 24, 2016
BEST ANSWER: We are using an 8-9in mattress because that is what was on our old bed. I would say you could use up to a 12 in mattress
I would like to use reclaimed materials milled to 3/4" thick and glued up for the side and front (when closed) panels. Any reason this couldn't be done?
Scott A on Feb 2, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Scott. I've built two of these and just about to start construction on a third one. Your question is a valid one!! There is quite a bit of stress on the side pieces where the hinges and lifting piston are located. There is virtually no stress on the front of the cabinet (the part that faces the floor when the bed is lowered. I assume you are trying to go for a somewhat "rustic" look to the piece as you are considering using reclaimed lumber. My suggestion would be to use plywood as recommended in the plans, then just face the ply with your reclaimed lumber. If possible, just mill the lumber down to 1/4" or less. The advantage to doing it this way would be structural strength and stability for the entire mechanism. The plywood provides structural strength for the hinges and piston, and eliminates seasonal wood movement so the unit functions perfectly in any conditions related to humidity and wood movement. The added weight of 1/4" material to the face and the sides would not create a problem. Hope this helps. Alan in Austin, TX
will a memory foam mattress be too heavy? queen--8'' thick
larry e on Dec 26, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Probably not, the only problem is if the mattress is too light; the bed won't stay down if the mattress is too light. Having it too heavy wouldn't really be a problem. Just take a little more effort to lift it back up, but wouldn't create any problems with the mechanism.
Bed thickness- with so many options for beds these days, pillow top, memory foam, cooling gel, the beds are thicker than a plan mattress. I purchased the basic full size kit. My question is how thick of a mattress is allowed so the bed can close properly?
Jeff H on Jul 26, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I believe that memory foam is not recommended since it sags in an upright position: it has no inner springs.
can I make the cabinet depth be 12" instead of 16" with a thinner latex mattress?
John5846 on Feb 26, 2018
BEST ANSWER: It may not be just the mattress depth that you have to worry about. You should check with Rockler to see if the lifting mechanism will work with a shallower depth. It seems to be designed to accommodate the original depth. The main rod is attached centered 6" from the wall. You could move this closer but then you might not have clearance to lift the bed and clear the wall at the head. I actually altered the height because I didn't have the clearance underneath a soffit but I didn't have any limitations on depth.
Will this work on a mattress that is a full?
Keith G on Dec 29, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Not sure what product you are referring to. If you're using Queen hardware on a full you can add counter weighting to the inside of the foot end to get the proper balance.
Would there be any problem with making this 1 inch shorter and narrower if I have a mattress that fits?
Sandy S on Dec 23, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I have built two murphy beds with this kit and they turned out great. I don't envision any technical problems with the adjustments that you propose. The biggest challenge will be modifying all of the dimensions and cut plans to compensate for the changes.
I am building a murphy bed for a client who is very concerned about the effort to raise and lower the bed. Is there any mechanical or geometric adjustment to change the lift/lower effort?
Peter M on Oct 11, 2016
BEST ANSWER: There is no adjustment, using a lighter mattress would make lifting easier, that said however, it's not difficult to raise or lower it. Had someone asking a while back if their toddler might try and lower/raise it and get hurt. It takes more strength than a 2-3 year old could muster, but it doesn't take a strong person to make it work either. Hope this helps. AW
I just want to put the bed in a regular closet (no cabinet). The closet opening is large enough for the bed to be stored in and come down. Will this kit allow me to do this?
s f on Sep 14, 2016
BEST ANSWER: The answer is both yes and no, let me explain. The mechanism that hinges the bed, and the "pistons" that help raise and lower it, require very specific measurements for location and spacing to work correctly. The pictures shown include side cabinets for storage which are certainly optional. The instructions and the video that come with this set don't include these side cabinets. Making the bed fit into a closet is certainly possible, and without these side cabinets, it will work just fine. If you're thinking of making the bed and trying to attach the hinges and other hardware to the sides of the closet, this would be VERY difficult. Just build it as instructed, with the sides, "headboard", and top, then slide this entire assembly into the closet would be the way to do it. I've built several of these (never tried to put one in a closet though), and they work very well. I just bought another kit to make one for our guest room, and will be building it w/o the side "bookcases". This would be the way to go for your application too. Hope this helps. AW
if you modify the Queen Kit to fit a King, won't it just require more strength to close the bed?
ken m on Apr 16, 2016
BEST ANSWER: You're correct in thinking that it will require more strength to close but the biggest concern is when opening the bed it will be extremely heavy and you could easily be knocked to the floor and pinned. Be very careful with changing the manufactures specifications.
Must I use an inner spring mattress? I Love my mattress, it is made of light weight soy based foam. It is a queen size, 12" deep.
Phoenix on Apr 8, 2016
BEST ANSWER: The weight of the mattress holds the base down. If the mattress is too light, it will retract on its own when not occupied. I suppose you could add some sort of hook, but that would not be part of the installation plan.
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